I’ve now recorded two interviews with very interesting friends on Blog Talk Radio. This is the beginning of a series of conversations with provocative thinkers, business leaders, activists and educators on Sustainable Leadership. We explore the idea that sustainability requires a deep personal and cultural shift in the ways we see, think, act and do business in the world. In even the best case future scenarios, we need to find new ways to live, produce and consume. And, it might even turn out to be a more enjoyable way to live!
Our first online interview October 1 with climate scientist Jeffrey Kiehl, covered a wide swath of territory in an hour. Jeff talked about how nature becomes invisible to us. Our limited awareness of ourselves in nature, time and space impacts our ability to see, and act on, the environmental challenges we are creating for ourselves. Jeff describes how the images, metaphors and stories we tell ourselves impact our possibilities for acting in new ways. And how do we change? We need to rewrite the story. We have been living in an industrial-age culture in which the machine is the metaphor for life and business. And now we are moving into a new metaphor, in which living systems are the metaphor. The earth goes from being an inert lump of resources waiting to be exploited, to something alive. If we are addicted to fossil fuels, we talked about treatment models from psychology and the recovery movement. Jeff tells a powerful ancient greek story in which a greedy man becomes so addicted to the fruits of the earth that eventually consumes everything, including his own limbs! In this story, the spirit of the earth is alive, showing up as a goddess. At the end, we talk about the need to move from an argumentative, media-dominated discussion of sustainability into a real collective conversation focused on new stories and new actions.
Check out Jeff’s website at www.jtkiehl.com The interview is available at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/SustainableLeadership/blog/2008/10/01/Nature-Visible-and-Invisible
In the second conversation, recorded today, Michael Brownlee and Dan explored the rapidly growing “Transition” movement as an evolution towards resilient local communities, spurred on by the challenges of energy descent. We talked about the idea of “peak oil” and the impact it may have on our economy and our lifestyles. Michael defined “resilience” as the ability of communities to withstand economic and environmental shocks. Rather than viewing energy descent as a scenario of collapse and breakdown, however, Michael sees these times as a spur for cultural evolution of the human species. We are moving from adolescence into adulthood, with new capacities for collective intelligence and community. The Transition movement, which originated in the UK, has become a rapidly growing movement in Colorado.
See the Transition Boulder County site at transitioncolorado.ning.com and hear the interview at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/SustainableLeadership/blog/2008/10/09/Transition-The-Most-Inspiring-Movement-in-the-World
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